Podcast Episode
First Time Founders with Ed Elson – Figma’s Founder on Post-IPO Life & the Road Ahead
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Dec 7, 202547 min5Total amount of saves from this episode
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Ed Elson speaks with Dylan Field, co-founder and CEO of Figma. They discuss the future of design in the age of AI, how his management style has changed over time, and what it was like to go public. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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In this episode, Ed Elson interviews Dylan Field, co-founder and CEO of Figma, exploring the evolving landscape of design influenced by AI advancements. They delve into how Dylan’s leadership approach has transformed over time and share insights from Figma’s experience going public. The conversation offers a forward-looking perspective on the challenges and opportunities facing design and tech founders post-IPO.
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The last thing I'd say is just, it might actually be true that, ironically, you know, design is non-verifiable. There's no way to know other than, you know, rigorous debate, A-B testing, is design A or design B better for my audience? And even with A-B testing, you could hit local maximums and not the global maximum. And you might be missing sort of the forest for the trees. And so there's so many different inputs to design, whether it be product design, visual design, brand design, that are just kind of beyond the context that you have in a tool or in a model. You know, there's just sort of like, what is the culture right now? What's the system we're trying to create? What's the brand we're going for? What's the ethos we stand for? What's the point of view we have? What are the business constraints? Like, I can keep going. And also, what are the flows? What's the before and after of these states? And how do we want to manage our complexity? And how do we want to make it so that we're able to have progressive disclosure? What's our philosophy and viewpoint on all of us? And like, this is a lot of context to go gather, and it should lead to many outputs if you give it to an LM. And I don't even think it's possible right now to give a lot to an LM. But the better that the models get at generative capabilities that are highly opinionated, I think it's actually better for the conversation around design. Because if I show you a very opinionated design, you'll have a reaction. Yes. You're going to love it, you're going to hate it, but you're not going to be neutral. If I show you a not very opinionated design, you know, something that's kind of like the average of averages, you will be more neutral. It's all right. Yeah. As the craft increases, as the aesthetic increases for these models, as they get better at that, it's almost like you're planting all these different flags in a potential option space. And it's your job as a designer, as a team, to go figure out where in that option space do you want to go even deeper, push harder, and explore further.
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